Then & Now: Una Conversación con André Sánchez

por André Sanchez y Christian La Mont

In this interview, André Sanchez offers a firsthand account of his powerful journey in connecting to Latino Outdoors and with nature. Join us in celebrating the past ten years of Latino Outdoors through the eyes of one of its leaders, André Sanchez.

Please note that this interview has been thoughtfully edited for clarity and conciseness, ensuring a comprehensive yet succinct representation tailored to fit into this blog.

Latino Outdoors (LO): Let’s get into it! To kick off, can you share a bit about yourself, including your name, background, and perhaps a glimpse into your heritage?

André: I’m André Sanchez, I’m a first-generation Mexican American, born and raised in Madera, California, in the heart of the San Joaquin Valley. While my family has ties to la Ciudad de Mexico as that’s where my mother and her siblings were born and raised before migrating, we have roots in Oaxaca. My grandparents are originally from Villa Alta en la Sierra Norte region. Growing up, I embraced my Mexican heritage and an Indigenous perspective, though I didn’t necessarily know that’s what it was rooted in and simply viewed it as my grandmother’s and family’s teachings.

Way back when it was still referred to as D.F., my abuela, mother, and two of my uncles migrated from the growing city to the San Joaquin Valley and became migrant laborers. My grandmother was the first one to come over to the US. I don’t even know the year, honestly, but then my mother and my uncles came over. Despite the challenges, their hard work and resilience paved the way for new opportunities, transforming them into educators and public health professionals, and just overall loving community members. They instilled in me a deep sense of ethics and morality, shaping the person I am today. I’m just grateful that I come from the background that I do with my rich Mexican Chilango & Oaxacan heritage and the legacy of resilient migrant laborers.

“it just amazed me to see the waterfalls for the first time”

André Sanchez

Park ranger André in Ahwahnee, summer 2015

André during his first backpacking trip, summer 2011

LO: Do you remember early experiences in nature, in the outdoors?

André: One experience that has resonated with me throughout my life is the first time I visited Yosemite Valley, or Ahwahnee as I’ve learned local Native communities call it. I was around seven years old, when my late uncle (Azael) took, me, my grandmother (Esther) and my two older siblings (Jose & Natalie) to receive the beauty and medicine that the park had to offer. Seeing the waterfalls for the first time and just being there among the granite monoliths, not really knowing how I would eventually relate to the experience and memory, but just knowing that I really just loved it and enjoyed it at that moment.

André’s Tio Azael

André’s abuela Esther

On another note of early experience with nature, some of my formative youth involved fishing, a shared activity that brought together my brother Jose, his friends, some family friends, and me. I learned a lot through these experiences since we were a mix of ages, with me being the youngest in what became our recurring group. We would go out fishing in different places in and around the San Joaquin Valley. So we would frequent the rivers, sloughs, lakes, what have you, and having to learn the elements of fishing definitely left a mark on me because it made me realize you’re going to have to be patient. Nature is serene. You’re going to have to sit here and just take it in. And I think I generally did learn that to a high degree, but obviously still wanting to do more outside kind of lingered within me.

LO: Was there someone in your life that played a large role in your love of nature, someone as a child or later in life that really set you down this journey towards conservation?

André: A key figure in shaping my profound connection with nature is undoubtedly my late uncle Azael, the same individual who introduced me and my family to Yosemite and various other outdoor experiences. Not only did he facilitate our trips to Yosemite but also took us to the Monterey Bay Aquarium and the serene lakes and forests of the Sierra Nevada. And mind you, he wasn’t necessarily a conservation nature person in that context, but he just got exposed to it through some of his opportunities, and he wanted to share that with us because he knew it was an amazing experience for him. But, yeah, I would say him because he took me to several different places that I don’t think I would have ever known about or experienced otherwise.

“Having to learn the elements of fishing definitely left a mark on me because it made me realize you’re going to have to be patient. Nature is serene. You’re going to have to sit here and just take it in.”

André Sanchez

LO: You’ve been part of Latino Outdoors for a few years now. You’ve also grown in the conservation field. You in particular. It’s your career. As we look back on the last ten years, can you tell us a little bit about the growth you’ve seen in Latino outdoors and then the growth you’ve seen in the world of conservation, and then the growth that you’ve seen in yourself?

André: My official journey with Latino Outdoors (LO) began in 2017 as a volunteer, but my awareness and connection with the organization extends further back. Over this time, I’ve witnessed profound changes within LO. The most noticeable transformation has been its exponential growth—expanding volunteer bases, increased public support, and a growing staff that now includes dedicated advocacy and policy roles. It’s just amazing to see that LO is ever-growing and changing. At the same, still being very rooted in what the intention of LO was created for, which is like culturally relevant exposure to nature, if you will, or building community that is going to eventually experience nature in some way, shape or form. And just like acknowledging that we are a community and all these different gente just want to be outside and that we have a right to be outside.

I would say the addition of the advocacy position has been particularly significant for me, as it aligns with my professional role. That growth runs parallel with LO in that sense because I was trying to figure out how I could continue to be a working professional and also do my personal decolonization without me knowing what exactly that meant or looked like. What it was or what it was becoming at the time with what LO was trying to achieve, ultimately, which is, we’re going to try to just get people outside in whatever way, shape, or form we can, and we’re going to meet them where we’re at. And the point of this is that we’re trying to build community. We’re trying to get our community to be comfortable, to be outside, and trying to get them to understand that these places are for them. And we’re trying to do it in a safe, culturally competent, and relevant manner. And essentially translating that lens to my work is what I’ve tried to do ever since I’ve been wearing these multiple hats.

“What LO was trying to achieve, ultimately, which is, we’re going to try to just get people outside in whatever way, shape, or form we can, and we’re going to meet them where we’re at.”

André Sanchez

LO: As we wrap up our conversation, André, reflecting on your journey from a super volunteer to now serving as a board member, your unique perspective provides invaluable insights. Looking ahead, considering the tremendous growth and impact of Latino Outdoors over the past decade, what is your vision for the organization in the next ten years? How do you see LO evolving, and what goals do you aspire to achieve in this next phase of its journey?

André: What I’m really hoping continues to happen and what my vision would be for LO as the community continues to grow for the next “X” number of years and decades, is that we continue to create opportunities because there’s a lot of ground to cover and there’s a lot of people that we haven’t tapped into yet and there’s a lot of community to build and a lot of leaders that are emerging and that should emerge. If you look at the map that we have of the different regions throughout the country, there’s still a lot of places that we’re not covering yet. I’m hoping we continue to build towards covering more space on the map.


André volunteers with Latino Outdoors as both a Program Coordinator and Advisory Board member. As the Latino Outdoors Program Coordinator for Fresno, André works towards inspiring others about the importance of protecting natural resources by sharing his knowledge of rivers, wildlife, and the different environmental services they provide for people, including clean water, clean air, and respite from everyday life. As a member of the Board, he hopes to further this effort and expand his support of LO’s mission.


Yo Cuento: Then & Now

por Jazzari Taylor

Growing in Advocacy

I often think back to the Summer of 2016, my first outing event with Latino Outdoors. My best friend, Maricela Rosales, encouraged me to join the Los Angeles Volunteer team at Heal the Bay for a beach cleanup at Dockweiler State Beach. To be completely honest, I was hesitant because I always felt a tug and pull with my racial identity, being multi-racial and a non-fluent Spanish speaker. I was reassured that the growing Latino Outdoors organization, which I would be joining at the cleanup, welcomed all diasporas, multicultural experiences, dialects, and backgrounds. I remember not knowing what to expect, having jitters, and holding my breath. Taking the leap as a participant and volunteer would bring me back full circle as a Policy Advocate with Latino Outdoors.

As a child, I was fortunate to visit local city parks and join free or affordable recreational opportunities. My parents would send me to income-based YMCA summer camps, take day trips to our state beaches, and visit local public lands. Before I joined my first outing event with Latino Outdoors, I faced many challenges in my 20s and was trying to find my purpose in life. What were my passions? What fueled the very core of my soul?

Having the courage to show up to the beach clean-up in 2016 was the best decision I made, not only for my community but also for my health. That summer day, I was welcomed by a handful of volunteers and partners from Latino Outdoors. This left a lasting impression on my outlook on stewarding lands and promoting more accessible outdoor spaces. A growing number of BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color) organizations and individuals showed up and took up space, helping to change the narrative that we have always loved and cared for the outdoors. This set a precedence for a larger network of collaborative partnerships for championing a more equitable outdoors.

I have seen first-hand the transformative power of comunidades, healing my inner child through the intentional and expressive opportunities Latino Outdoors has offered. In 2018, I co-led my first hike at Eaton Canyon Natural Area and Nature Center, in the newly proposed San Gabriel National Monument expansion. The most amazing part was being able to bring along my mother to share the experience. I co-led outings with many supportive colleagues across Southern California, which broadened my understanding of conservation, and our role in advocating for representation and equitable access to our public lands.

A huge plus has been being able to share these experiences with my familia. There were many firsts, from SnowShoeing in the Los Padres National Forest with Latino Outdoors and encouraging mi primo to step out of our comfort zones together to building my knowledge and skills with the California State Park’s FamCamp Certification campout event. Latino Outdoors also introduced me to an internship with the National Park Service for youth programming at underfunded YMCAs in the Los Angeles County area. All of these opportunities inspired me to further my education and personal skills. I leveraged my past experiences to encourage myself and others to share our stories and extend our networking opportunities. I continued to work for local city parks and recreation departments and, nearly a decade later, completed my Bachelor’s Degree from the University of California, Riverside. I was motivated to “do more” and bring our community voices to the forefront. Then the pandemic hit.

During the pandemic, virtual Lotería games, iNaturalist courses, and book clubs offered a safe space for venting, healing, and learning. Latino Outdoors continued to be more than just an organization, but mi gente, time and time again. During a time of social justice and public health concerns, speaking up and leading by example on how to Recreate Responsibly took a united front. I remember a specific moment when I was inspired to do more after watching a virtual lecture by José González, founder of Latino Outdoors. I emailed him asking something along the lines of, “How do I continue to be involved and influence policy? How can I advocate for our communities in the outdoors? What more can I do?” José González replied, “You are doing enough. Trust the process”.

I continued to identify mentors and like-minded leaders within Latino Outdoors and partner organizations like The National Audubon Society, Nature For All, National Parks Conservation Association (NPCA), along with my local city parks and recreation departments. It all helped me continue to highlight my passions, for community and the outdoors, while further honing my skills. During the 2020 pandemic, alongside a progressive slate of leaders, I challenged myself to run, and successfully win, as an Assembly District Representative. During the following two years, I worked alongside communities while pursuing and completing a Master’s in Public Administration, with a specialization in Leadership Development from National University. My capstone project thesis focused on park equity and the ethical responsibility of Administrators for equitable outdoor access. I leveraged the Parks Needs Assessment and countless amounts of research that supports the claim that relationship building with communities and increased funding through ethical public policies can help create a more equitable outdoors, thus increasing health, welfare, safety, and access for all.

In these past two years, I continued to learn how to authentically engage with community members. I collaborated with both local and state representatives to truly hear the concerns of the people through workshops, listening sessions, city council meetings, and on-the-ground conversations. Sometimes, the on-the-ground conversations were during a mask-mandated food distribution, COVID-19 testing site, outdoor outing, or a hike. Throughout that period, Latino Outdoors was at the center of outdoor resources for engagement and learning opportunities where a supportive LatinX community continues to grow, from volunteers and colleagues to an extension of my own familia. Latino Outdoors has grown from a staff of four with just under one hundred volunteers to now, eleven national staff and over 250 volunteers in 32 and growing regions across the nation. This year, we’re celebrating ten años of Latino Outdoors!

Who would have thought that showing up as a participant in 2016 would lead to being a part of the national staff in November of 2022? In these past ten months, I have had the opportunity to advocate alongside amazing community members and experts. Latino Outdoors founder José González was also one of the founding members of the California Parks Now Coalition, and now I have the opportunity to join as a Chair on behalf of Latino Outdoors. As members of the coalition, we have advocated at the state capitol in Sacramento for outdoors equity, CA 30×30, the Outdoors For All strategic plan, and various bills. The California Parks Now Coalition comprises over 30 organizations and individuals who bring their own experiences, stories, and expertise to protect and expand access to public parks, oceans, and spaces.

As I continue to develop my own skills as a policy expert, I listen, learn, and support campaigns and Indigenous voices through various coalitions that focus on public lands and national monument designations. In April of 2023, I joined the America the Beautiful Coalition in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Latino Outdoors, working alongside over 100 individuals from organizations across the nation like GreenLatinos, Hispanic Access Foundation, Brown Girl Surf, CalWild, The Wilderness Society, and Sierra Club. We joined working groups to meet with legislative offices to amplify two priorities. One is the 30×30 Federal initiative of preserving at least 30 percent of U.S. lands and freshwater and 30 percent of U.S. ocean areas by 2030. The other is Justice40, which supports that 40% of the federal investments should support underfunded and traditionally marginalized groups. This calls for the federal government to acknowledge that communities of color and frontline communities have had little to no resources in the past. There are strategic plans for new funding to support equitable access, conservation, and investments to protect natural areas with cultural and historic significance.

One of the major takeaways from the federal legislative office meetings was the need for more diverse voices in office and throughout all levels of government. Representation matters when it comes to public administrators making sound decisions that reflect the voices of the people, but this also means that we, the People, have a responsibility to share our stories and remain involved in the processes. I recognize the huge inequities in being able to consistently show up to meetings or spaces when many people’s priorities are to make their basic needs met. This further emphasizes the importance of organizations like Latino Outdoors, which are on the frontline, supporting their participants and volunteers with resources and free or affordable programming opportunities. Our voice matters. Your voice matters and has the power to influence policy.


I am thankful to have a seat at many other tables because of the hard work and dedication of leaders ahead of me, the Latino Outdoors team, and community members across the nation.  Making room for more seats and diverse voices takes the heart of many and the movement of us all. I am thankful for the opportunity to have joined Latino Outdoors in 2016 and the many opportunities to learn more about myself, be able to connect with all of our comunidades, and protect the outdoors. Together, we can make a difference, and it can start with just a beach cleanup. So, my question to you is, will you join Latino Outdoors on our next outdoor adventure?


Kayaks, Trails and Mules: Now, That’s Baja!

por Trudi Angell

It was almost 50 years ago when I became a sea kayaker. Though I had done some hiking, backpacking, and horse riding in my teens in California, I had not been out on the open water before. So how did I end up in México, on a remote beach, with a cluster of date palm trees and a dozen other young people from 16 years old to late 20s? It’s a fun story.

Flipping through a catalog of courses from the National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS) back in the winter of 1975, none of the snow-camping courses (brrr!) or rock climbing courses (ugh, heavy packs) piqued my interest. But when I got to the page that had a photo of warm, sunny beaches with snorkeling, kayaking, and sailing offered as a 12-day outdoor learning experience, I signed right up. Back then, it was $350 dollars for the 12-day course, so I flew to San Diego and met a girl who was also going on the trip. The next day, her dad drove us to Tijuana to catch a direct flight to somewhere in Baja. The town we were headed to had a funny name, something about mules, maybe, but I had studied Spanish in junior high, high school, and a couple of college classes. I figured I could probably get along okay. Wrong.

As LouAnne and I flew over Scammon’s lagoon, we could see the shadowy forms of whales below in the enclosed bay…then the almost-empty 40-passenger twin-engine plane landed on a dirt strip in the middle of a cactus-covered desert, and the “airport” was a little palm thatch shed with a couple of taxis hoping for someone to disembark. I was glad we were traveling together as we grabbed our bags and hopped into one of the taxis. Here is where my Spanish language would come in handy. The driver asked, “Adónde van?”. “Al Hotel Serenidad, por favor.” And off we went.

Longer story short, LouAnne, the other dozen students, and I became great friends. Something about the outdoors, camping, minimalist lifestyle, and the camaraderie of living together for a couple of weeks in the wilderness and paddling down the coast with our food and gear tucked into the crannies of a sea-worthy kayak, like a floating backpack, well, it was certainly a turning point. There must have been something in the synchronicity of budding Spanish language skills blended with the amazing teachers we had on our NOLS Baja course, the gorgeous coastline, and the simplicity of living day to day in our environment like the local fishermen and farmers in México. Now, 48 years later, the stars overhead, the swish of the sea, and the trails that lead into the desert are truly a comforting home.


Trudi Angell has been a pioneer of adventure travel in Baja California Sur, México since 1983. Leaving a wake of 30 years of sea kayaking, plus exploring the peninsula on mules to ranches and rock art sites. She has ridden mules through Baja from top to bottom, twice, and is planning another 1000-mile mule-pack trip for 2024. She is celebrating 20 years of having dual citizenship. She produced a documentary about mule riding on El Camino Real in Baja, and her Spanish is now really good!